Going Deeper part 12
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The Direction is Inward
Speaker: Inward is where the light can be found; the
light in the mind that the false beliefs and the concepts and the constructs
have covered over. Inward is where happiness is, is where love is. In
a sense it’s a direction outward-inward, not looking outward to
the projections, to the idols to complete me.
Participant: So removing the obstacles to that love is removing those
constructs from my mind.
Speaker: Or disidentifying from those constructs.
Participant: Ok, yes, it’s recognizing they are just constructs.
In a sense there’s nothing to remove, it’s just recognizing
that constructs is all that they are, like you say, not identifying
with them but disregarding them.
Speaker: Yes. It’s not a destroying process; this isn’t
a process of destroying the false or destroying the evil. It’s
a matter of not being fooled, not believing that the false is true,
not believing that the unreal is real. You know, truth is a recognition.
But you have to be able to look and identify the false as false before
you can experience that recognition. It’s really a sorting out
of thoughts, that the Holy Spirit is helping the mind with. And false
thoughts are no longer valued and are no longer invested in. In a sense
Participant: because they’re recognized for what they are.
Speaker: Yes. So life just becomes One Big Holy Encounter. It’s
an inward direction of how to step out of the maze of time and space.
The inner voice, the intuition, the Holy Spirit keeps guiding the mind
to let go of the limited constructs. It’s a sorting out of the
false from the true or helping the mind to stay at the mind level. Not
raise the body thoughts, the world thoughts and the attack thoughts
to the level of mind. It’s to see a projection as a projection.
The way the projection goes can seem to be like a hall of mirrors. If
you put two mirrors back to back and you look in and you can just seem
to see the images of the person looking in a mirror, just fragmented
and split. It just seems to go on and on and on, tinier and tinier and
tinier. In a sense that’s the way that the mind deceives itself.
Another good example would be television; the invention in the projected
world that mirrors images. It seems like the image, the person, watches
more images, that the projection continues to fragment and splinter
and so on so forth, but it’s simply the fragmentation of images
that seems to be the multiplicity of the world as more images are produced
in television and advertising and distribution of products. Just more
variety and more things to see and do and everything; just a multiplication
of images, when in fact, that’s all just part of the construct.
A hundred times zero or a thousand times zero is still zero! Things
aren’t getting worse in the world; things aren’t getting
better in the world. The world is the world.
There is a way of seeing the entire world as a fabric; of not ordering
the thoughts and not judging, that literally releases the mind from
its belief in littleness. And in that sense television is just a neutral
in the sense that it can be used by the mind, by the Holy Spirit or
the trained mind to help just to see the false as false and to not buy
into particular images. To the untrained mind these images reinforce
the beliefs in separation and fragmentation in the mind. So to the untrained
mind, the learning of the world continues with television, the perceptions
that the mind sees and the fragmentations and the things it sees are
just reinforced as being real. The beliefs continue to be reinforced
as being real.
So for a child watching television for many, many hours it can seem
that the projections are reinforced and the images are reinforcing the
beliefs in the mind. So it can be very helpful to take time with the
child to talk and ask “what does that mean to you”, and
really start to speak and use the dialogue, the conversation and whatever
is on the screen as a teaching-learning device. To talk about the meaning
that is given and to get into a discussion of values and to use it as
a way to get into questions of deeper levels of the mind.
Participant: That’s when the Holy Spirit is at work; to use the
images as part of training the mind to greater discernment and sorting
out the true from the false.
Speaker: And if one doesn’t have a lot of time to sit down and
talk with the child who’s watching TV it can be helpful to very
carefully select programs that are reinforcing more helpful values as
well as to limit television when it’s unsupervised or when there
is no one to really discuss with and go into the different meanings
and everything. So this is a case of taking it down to a presenting
problem which for a lot of people television is, it’s something
of the area, the arena, a part of their life that they really have some
questions about. It can seem to be very seductive. Sitting there and
watching these images seem to present a picture of reality. But once
again, it has nothing to do with reality in the ultimate sense. Like
with everything else, it can be used as a symbol by the Holy Spirit
to undo the false concepts, as well as it can be used by the ego for
the purpose of reinforcing the beliefs in fragmentation and victim-victimizer.
And the ego can also be very drawn to competition, battles, fights and
so on so forth because that reinforces the belief in competition. Seen
right or seen differently the same images are simply seen as a call
for help or in the ultimate sense seen as unreal, to a trained mind.
It can be used as a tool for release. It can also be helpful to look
at the intention in my mind; what is it for, for me? If I’m trying
to get something from it, what is it that makes me value one program
Participant: And that gets back to the thinking that it is something
to be gotten, right, that I’m not already whole and complete and
Speaker: Yes, the discerning between the Holy Spirit’s and the
ego’s purpose. When you’re talking about the body identification
you could break it into many ways and levels in the world; in the sense
of fashion; to seek training the body; to look for a more standardized
form of beauty; accepted beauty, weight loss and just on and on and
on and on. The important thing is to get at the purpose. The ego’s
purpose is a focus on the body because the body is its chosen home.
It tells the mind that the body is its chosen home and even though the
body is not a very good home for the mind in the sense that it is fallible,
it breaks down and so on. The ego wants to emphasize the form identity
because that’s what protects it in the mind, the form identification;
the substitute is what protects the belief in separation. So therefore,
you can look at the intention, it comes down to pulling it back away
from thinking that you can see the ego in any thing or anywhere. I mean
some people might say well, a shopping mall, you know, with all of the
emphasis on the form, the body and the clothing, the convenience and
all the different services made available to the body; is like the temple
of the ego. And you could use that metaphorically, but ultimately remember
that the desires for the things of the world are in the mind.
Participant: Not in the shopping mall. ?
Speaker: Not in the shopping mall, once again it’s just getting
past level confusion. Here we can discuss the meaning of altars, like
in the old sense, having a temple with an altar, a very holy place,
altars are like devotions or desires and what the mind is devoted to
really says it all, I mean it’s coming back and seeing past the
ego’s tricks and withdrawing the devotions from the ego.
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